Is Saxon Math being discontinued? You might have heard this rumor rolling around the internet.

I’ve done a little research to set the record straight.

First, there are two lines of Saxon Math textbooks.

There is the homeschool line that looks like this:

And, there is the school line that looks like this:

As the names suggest, the homeschool line is sold primarily to homeschools and the school line is sold primarily to schools. We’ve contacted the publisher, Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, and found out that they will likely stop publishing the school line sometime in 2023.

This includes:

- Intermediate 3
- Intermediate 4
- Intermediate 5
- Course 1
- Course 2
- Course 3
- Algebra 1, 4
^{th}edition - Algebra 2, 4
^{th}edition - Geometry

There have been **no reported changes for the homeschool line.**

So what can you expect if you’re currently using the school line? I imagine that it will take a while for these books to go completely out of circulation. If you can find copies of the textbooks you need, you could continue to use this line for the foreseeable future and most likely not experience an issue. I will continue to provide videos, so no worries there. If you’re thinking of switching over to the homeschool line, it would be an easy transition as the textbooks for both lines are quite similar.

I’ll continue to monitor the situation, and if any updated information becomes available, rest assured, that you’ll hear it from me immediately. But for now, let’s get the school year started with one less thing to worry about. Here’s to a great year!!!

See you soon,

Nicole

**01-24-23 UPDATE**

Phew. The Saxon rumors were running pretty wild the last few days! If something could go “viral” in a Homeschool Facebook Group, it would be the mere suggestion that Saxon is shutting down their publication of their Homeschool Line of books.

Rest assured. We’re on it.

We spoke with our top-level contact at Rainbow Resources today and found out a few things:

- Saxon has
**NOT said they are shutting down**their publication of their Homeschool Line in 2024. - Saxon has said they will be
**reviewing their plan**for the Homeschool Line in 2024. - Both of those tidbits of info were known months ago and nothing has changed since then.
- Whatever caused a stir earlier this week was unfounded.

While there is no guarantee that Saxon will continue publishing the Homeschool Line after 2024, there is also no reason to believe they won’t. As we learn more information, we will keep you updated.

**05-18-23 UPDATE**

After speaking with Stephen Hake, the co-author of Saxon Math, we have another update. You can find the latest announcement here.

Will you still support the school line for families who own the textbooks and want to use them for younger kids as they get older?

Great question and the answer is yes! The videos are here to stay.

My sons school uses older Saxon books still. Second edition

There are so many books in circulation, I imagine it will take a while to completely phase them out.

I need a lesson in long division. My son is currently doing Saxon Algebra 1/2 and we’ve discovered he has forgotten how to do long division! Do you have a lesson that reviews that skill he could watch? We still have our subscription with you for many more months…thank goodness!

Hi Sarah. If you have a Premium membership, there is a video on long division in the One Minute Tutorials. If you do not have a Premium membership, use the search icon (magnifying glass in the upper right-hand corner) and search for long division. If there is a lesson on long division in that textbook, it will come up. If have trouble locating, just email us at info@nicolethemathlady.com and we can send you a direct link.

That is good news, thanks for doing the research for us! However, I have ALL the Saxon books, so I’m not worried about them going away, I’m just worried about YOU going away! So just never delete those life saving videos and our homeschool will be just fine. LOL!!

Thank you for all that you do, truly, you are a life saver!!

Josey (Lidia’s mom 🙂

You are most welcome. My videos are here to stay as it will take a long time to really phase out those textbooks.

Oh my goodness!! I didn’t hear this?!

Yes…it will take a while to phase everything out…years really…but I wanted folks to know so they could prepare.

Do you know the reason why?

Houghton Mifflin Harcourt has several different curriculums that they sell to public schools and I think some of those are probably more popular and are better sellers than the Saxon line.

Do you know why it is being discontinued? Is there anything wrong with the material? we absolutely love using it!

The school line is quite similar to the homeschool line. Both have great books. Houghton Mifflin Harcourt has several different curriculums that they sell to public schools and I think some of those are probably more popular.

What does this mean for schools? They will eventually stop teaching Saxon? And change to what?

That decision will be up to each individual school. There are many different choices for them to choose from. If you are associated with a school, I suggest speaking with them to see what they plan to do.

Thank you Nicole! This is new information to me (as it might be to many parents). Thank you for addressing this topic as it could help clear up confusion in the future.

Best regards!

You’re most welcome!

I’m going to buy the Geometry book which goes better with your videos the homeschool line or school line?

Geometry is the one place I’m a little sad that it will eventually go away. The Geometry book exists only in the school line. (In the homeschool line, geometry is integrated across three textbooks: Algebra 1, Algebra 2, and Advanced Math.). In general, the school line and the homeschool line are very similar (the teaching is almost exactly the same, but they differ when it comes to the practice problems.) The geometry book, however, is different since it’s about half proofs. It’s the only place in the Saxon line that does a thorough look at proofs. That’s the bad news. The good news is that these textbooks will not disappear immediately on January 1. I believe that if you buy your books now, anyone doing math today could have access to the entire school line for a few years at least. In addition, my geometry videos and online grading are not going anywhere…they are here to stay. Hope that helps.

Thank you for that info!!! I love it when rumors are set straight!!!

Me too!

Thank you

You’re welcome.

I didn’t realize the difference between the homeschool line and the school line. We’ve homeschooled for years and done Saxon and I somehow missed that when I ordered math curriculum this year. For some reason I thought it was just an updated version. My son is doing algebra 1 and I ordered the school line book this year. Since geometry is integrated into the homeschool texts, would it be wise to scrap the school line book we got and re-order the homeschool line?

Great question. The Algebra 1 books are different. The 3rd edition (the homeschool line) has geometry integrated in it. The 4th edition (the school line) has no geometry in it as they pulled it out and created the separate Geometry book. I do not have 1) online grading for the Algebra school line and 2) do not have videos for Algebra 2, 4th ed. school line. So if you’d like to continue on with me, I’d go ahead and move over to the homeschool line. You can still choose to do the separate Geometry book and the extra geometry you receive in Algebra 1 and 2 (homeschool line) will only help.

Thank you! He has already started in the other book, but I think I will order the homeschool package. He’s also using your services for the videos only of the school line. Can I switch it to the other once we have that book here?

Absolutely…just go to the “Change Textbook” shortcut on the right-hand side of your parent account.

Do your practice questions/teaching stem from the school or homeschool line primarily?

I used the homeschool line in the making of my videos and practice problems. However, I created my own unique problems. Interesting fact, 80-85% of the lessons are exactly the same between the two lines so my videos have been able to work for both.

Thank you for doing research and providing us with information

You’re welcome!

Have you discovered WHY they are discontinuing the other line? It is such a solid math program I wonder why…

Publishing books is expensive in this day and age. It’s not as big a seller in the public school world where there are MANY more choices.

Thank you Nicole! So appreciate your time! We are a growing blended-learning cohort in NJ and happily using Saxon through Nicole the Math Lady. So relieved to hear the clarification. I was under the impression that the school versions were newer and more updated so I am surprised at the change.

You are correct. The “school versions” were newer. I’m assuming they didn’t sell as well in that market.

Help! Do you also do Geometry for Harold Jacobs? Our co-op is doing that this year and my child is distraught not having Nicole!! Please say you can help!

Unfortunately…at this time, I do not have videos for curriculum other than Saxon. Sorry.

Thank you sincerely for doing this research for families you are a blessing!

Thank you and it’s my pleasure.

I like your videos Nicole in them you brought life into math and I like to say Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are most welcome:-)

Wait so it isn’t going away? Thank goodness!

NOOOOO! They can’t do this!!!😭

They can’t take away saxon math it has helped me so much. And plus I love Nicole the math lady

The “school” books will still be around for a while, so I think you’ll be ok.

My son is now in 10 grade and he is homeschooler and he wants to study Saxon geometry.Is there any problem with that?

As long as your son has taken Algebra 1, he’s good to start with Geometry.

will there still be ways to get the books that are discontinued

I’m sure that the book distributors will still sell copies for a while.

Thank you! We use Saxon and I stressed for a minute bc we like Saxon in our homeschooling journey.

You’re welcome!

WHAT⁉️ NO, THIS CANT BE HAPPING

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I met John Saxon in the late 1970’s when I was teaching High School Math in Edmond, OK. He had written his first book and was lookin for a school to test the book and give feedback. We used it in a 9th grade Algebra class and from then on I was sold on the man and his books. I am so thrilled to find your website and interest in the Saxon series. I later taught at Fairview, OK and convinced the school to go with the Saxon series for our high school math and then a short time later we were using it K-12. In high school an average of 64% of our juniors took the Algebra III/Trig /Geometry Text and an average of 19% of our seniors were in a 4th year Calculus/Trig/Analytical Geometry class using his texts. Most schools at this time if they offered Calculus expected a 5% enrollment. All reports from our college students praised the Saxon Series for their math background in preparation for college. I retired in 2000 from teaching math and was sad to see the series no longer being used there. I would like to report that my 5th and 6th grade grandchildren use the Saxon text in their classroom and I am thrilled at their math knowledge and retention. Just wanted to give you an encouraging word in what you are doing. LaDonna

Thank you LaDonna!

good to know!I will tell my mom today.